This week, Zak sits down with Zach O’Hora and Lisa Whittick to talk about crafting a kids’ show with neurodiverse characters

Zak sits down with Zach O’Hora and Lisa Whittick on Carl the Collector.

They talk about crafting a kids’ show with neurodiverse characters and what it means to tell a good story.

We also check in on where the hosts are this week and celebrate the life and work of children's folk singer Ella Jenkins .